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good afternoon and welcome back to

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kennedy space center for our orion

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flight test post scrub briefing we're

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going to go over the scrub today and

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then also our plan going forward and to

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tell you all about that we have first of

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all here mark guyer the nasa program

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mike haws the lockheed martin program

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and finally dan collins the united

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launch alliance chief operating officer

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we'll start with some opening remarks

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and then take a few questions

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yeah so i'll make it short and sweet so

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the team uh

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worked really hard made a great attempt

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to get off today

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in the end made the right choice based

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on the data we had

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to not fly today we will attempt

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tomorrow there's still some open work

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that we're working today to confirm that

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but our plan is to fly tomorrow

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i do want to say the the engineering

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team the team in houston mission ops

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and the recovery team

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were ready

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did a great job today and they will be

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ready tomorrow the ships are still on

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station

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they'll stay there of course per the

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normal plan still for several days so

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not an early driver and i'll cover the

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landing weather landing weather uh for

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tomorrow still looks good

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we'll get a little little higher wave

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heights probably getting closer to six

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foot seas but again well within our

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constraints the landing weather tomorrow

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is very good

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and again i want to thank uh and

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congratulate the team for the hard work

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they did today uh as we get ready for

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tomorrow so pass to mike

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and i thought i just spent a couple of

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minutes talking more specifically about

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orion and the the spacecraft

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uh so we went through the power up

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procedure

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right at launch minus six hours as the

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timeline calls for

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uh spacecraft worked extremely well

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everything came up just as we would have

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envisioned

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and the team did a great

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job not just going through all of that

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but also going through the recycles and

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all the things as mark said that we have

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had them practice we have all been

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for simulations and we have been through

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this process

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and they went just like the simulations

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have trained us all to do so

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it was uh the spacecraft looks good

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there are no

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specific issues that we're working on

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orion but there are some questions that

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come up as part of the scrub like how

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many cycles can we do in terms of the

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batteries that power our developmental

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and those kinds of things because we do

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the launch minus nine minute point in

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the the count so we've used up a couple

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cycles and so we have to to look at how

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that factors into the

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the next couple attempts but overall the

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the spacecraft just looks fantastic and

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then i'll

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hand over to dan then well thanks uh

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i'll echo uh the comments of both mark

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very very proud of how the the

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integrated team the nasa lockheed martin

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range and uh ula team executed today's

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attempt we went on console just uh after

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midnight and had a very nominal count as

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we came through worked a couple of

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anomalies little little

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things that the team got together and

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discussed cleared them and continued to

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move forward

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as we got into our first couple of

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attempts we had three today

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we were

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we called a hold the the automated hold

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came out due to high ground winds we

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some winds that in the 20 to 21 knot

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range that we're coming right at a

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separation between a direction where we

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had a 19 knot limit and a 21 knot limit

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we were good unless it just kind of went

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to the wrong azimuth and then it kicked

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us out the first two times uh we got to

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a relatively quiescent period in the

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winds where he had a good shot at it and

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that's when we made our third attempt

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we had some fuel valves on the common

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booster cores that had gotten cold and

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a little sluggish in their performance

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again had a hold there

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the team did a great job of evaluating

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this this is something that we have seen

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on one previous heavy launch where we

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had a long window and had gone into it

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quite a ways into the window

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so we're off today

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going to execute the same procedures

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that we did after that last attempt and

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uh very confident we're going to be able

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to exonerate uh the hardware and then

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make an attempt

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going on console again early on friday

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morning for a

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launch window which is the same friday

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all right

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we're going to take questions here but

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keep in mind these guys started their

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day yesterday and they'll start tomorrow

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tonight so we're going to try and limit

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it to 30 minutes but we can start over

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jason ryan for spaceflightinsider.com i

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think this was for dan

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we noted that a boat came in early on in

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your first launch attempt and caused a

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little bit of havoc that's happened at

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wallops at least once it happened with

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the f9 it's happened a few times before

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i was hoping maybe when you guys could

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talk a bit about that how far out does

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the the field for eft one reach that the

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i guess the coast guard has to patrol go

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and what are you guys doing to kind of

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mitigate that

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uh i i don't have the specifics as far

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as the skull box how far it goes out uh

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and it's different on uh based on

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payloads and a lot of analysis that goes

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into that but the range does an

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amazingly good job and i understand

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every once in a while these things

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happen but they go to

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really all of the different maritime

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organizations and

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communicate very very well where the

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stay out areas are

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they get to all of the marinas in the

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local area

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to make sure that the the private

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boaters all understand that's there and

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really have seen a significant change

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years to where these occurrences happen

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very very infrequently

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when they do happen the range is

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typically on top of it and i can clear

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the box in a relatively short period of

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time and and what happened today was uh

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they they did spot the boat that was in

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the box

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the ship uh they did started down two

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paths one was to get the specifics on

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the size of the ship so they could

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understand whether they were violating

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safety requirements or not and then two

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help the ship

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get out of the box

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as they were helping the ship get to the

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right place they just they ran their

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analysis and found out that there was

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not a safety violation with where the

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ship was at that point in time and then

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i'm jeff patterson with wfla tv out of

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tampa dan this may be for you as well

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did that boat violation set off a series

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of events that led to the ultimate

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cancellation of the launch today in

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other words the powering up powering

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you had the window open at 705 and the

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within reason

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but did that one event set off the

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ultimate failure of today uh

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be a no-go

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because of the winds and there isn't uh

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data that i could tie

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the the cause of today's scrub back to

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that single incident with the boat

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marcia done associated press um could

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you look ahead what's your strategy

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going in how many days in a row could

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you try to launch before standing down

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for team rest and is there any cost

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associated with each day scrub

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we will uh

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we can launch a delta iv heavy

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uh two of any three days

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because of the commodities that are used

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to fill the large cbc's

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and the boil off that happens during a

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we know we can get two out of three but

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if we so if we go friday and

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and actually tank and go into the window

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then we'll have to stand down saturday

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if we come on

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console tonight or early friday morning

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and there we've either found something

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over the uh the the next uh you know 18

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hours or so where the weather has taken

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a significantly different path than we

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then we may choose to stand down friday

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two of those three so that's our

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constraint is we can we can launch the

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heavy two of three days it's constrained

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by the size of our ground tanks it's a

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it's only an eight hundred and fifty

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thousand gallon liquid hydrogen tank and

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so uh we uh we gotta fill it back up if

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we've gone twice uh there is a cost

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associated with scrubbing uh there

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there's no doubt about it just in the

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commodities there's the uh the boil off

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that's there uh but that's part of doing

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this business and uh

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the cost of that is pales in comparison

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to uh

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trying to fly when the rocket is telling

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so if you don't go during these three

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days how long do you have to stand down

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for the next go around

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we will work with the range

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saturday we have thursday friday and

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saturday reserved on the range

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saturday then we will work with the

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and are typically very very good in

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helping us

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we do know that uh we have a launch on

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next thursday that

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the point i should make is we know that

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if we launch

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on sunday here then we are still good

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with our launch date

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on the 11th out on the west coast after

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that we would have to probably work with

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our customers to figure out how to move

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around to accommodate that

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and the other factors marsha you know we

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know we have

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tdrs time for instance for today and

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tomorrow already locked in already

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scheduled as we get past uh

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those days

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uh we just we have to go back to the

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network and and negotiate those kinds of

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things we understand the constraints

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with the navy and the recovery

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operations so those are pretty well

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uh understood but they are all

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you know fundamentally new negotiations

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that happen as we get further in the

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window

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go ahead

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hi i'm craig cavall with aerospace

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america

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and a little more on the valves please

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how large are they

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are they rotating ball valves or

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something quite different

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and i just want to be sure where they're

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exchanging hydrogen between

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sure uh we'll start with uh what they're

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doing these are fill and drain valves

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that are on the vehicle side uh and they

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uh their their job is uh very shortly

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after we pick up terminal count uh these

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valve close and then never operate again

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so they're they're there while we're

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filling the tanks once they're

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full uh they they stay uh static for the

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entire rest of the mission uh

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i don't want it they're they're right

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they are relatively large valves i don't

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want to give you an exact diameter but

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you know somewhere in the 8 to 10 inch

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diameter

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type of

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a range

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yes

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randy siegel wstu radio uh

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follow up on the valves is it because of

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the cold from the

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hydrogen and oxygen that caused the

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valves apparently to stick and not allow

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them to move properly

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well let me uh

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yes

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a little bit of a clarification

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our locks valves all perform nominally

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through the entire count today

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uh

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our two of our hydrogen valves and you

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may expect that hydrogen being

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significantly colder uh they they were

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the ones that were

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sticking and so uh we believe that's the

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case

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the reason we believe that is that's

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what we found the last time we ran into

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this issue

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but we're going to let the data tell us

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exactly what was going on today and

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that's what the engineering team is

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over

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in the

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and looking to see if they're you know

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what are the proper tests to run today

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to make sure that we absolutely

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understand what happened today and not

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make any assumptions about what the

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history has uh shown us so today will

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stand on its own and we'll move forward

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based on the right moves from what we

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see today

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amy green wmfe public radio i just

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wanted to clarify a couple of things

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first of all i wanted to clarify was the

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boat in restricted space or not and also

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i wanted to clarify

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the

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could explain in just very layman's

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terms

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what that malfunction was and was it the

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valve issue that ultimately scrubbed the

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issue or the mission or are you saying

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that the winds would have scrubbed the

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mission either way okay

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i would i would like you to

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if if you would please i'm not a range

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expert i i i have my belief on where the

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boat was

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uh based on all of the data that goes

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into determining whether we're safe to

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fly or not and that's really what the

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range determined what we know as the

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user of the range is that the range did

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their job determined that it was safe to

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launch and they gave us the go ahead

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ultimately today's launch was

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scrubbed because of the valve behavior

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that we saw during the count

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the

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wind

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scrubbed us on our first two attempts

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that's what knocked us out and on the

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third attempt it was scrubbed because of

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the valve had the valve and all other

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parts of the rocket performed nominally

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the winds were green during the third

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thank you uh tarek malik with the

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space.com i just had actually a

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follow-up to marsha's question i think

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maybe for uh mark just looking ahead to

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tomorrow and and possibly saturday i

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think that the weather does not look as

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much as as good as it did today i think

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it's like 60

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you know no go um how will you be

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tracking that in real time you decide

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you know and when can you decide

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tomorrow whether or not to shift a

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saturday uh and do you expect kind of

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the same conditions on saturday i think

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dan den talked about that the

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while the the percentage is higher the

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the wind direction

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actually is better for us so even though

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it's a higher wind speed the direction

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is in a better direction so we actually

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have higher uh

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margin in that case so it looks like it

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actually will be about a push for us

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tomorrow so that's good news

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um

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i'd say that's the key for tomorrow

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we'll we will track it and as dan said

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we're going to look at it before we tank

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because we know that that's kind of

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starts the clock on

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getting these valves cool so we're going

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to make that decision prior to tanking

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and if it looks reasonable then we're

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going to proceed

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and we have other constraints on orion

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too as far as the cycling of the battery

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so that's all part of we'll talk about

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yeah hi jared hayworth with space flight

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insider this is a question for dan how

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well defined are the rules for switching

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from the automatic win the ground wind

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abort to the manual and how much

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confidence do you have in the launch

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team that i guess when you go to manual

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that they'll make the right call and and

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actually call the abort in the win

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conditions sure so uh

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the process for changing

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uh

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requirements during a turn during

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account is a very very well laid out and

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disciplined process and that well laid

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out discipline process gives us

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extremely high confidence that by using

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that process if we do decide to make a

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change that we are going to be able to

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execute it

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with the

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very very high

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requirement for mission success that we

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have so uh very very confident in the

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process

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we had decided that if we were to have

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made a fourth attempt and the winds were

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uh in that same area that they could be

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a problem that we would have gone to

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manual uh

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we are currently set up looking at

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tomorrow to start out with the uh the

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automated system as our baseline uh

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should we find ourselves in a situation

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where we believe there's a benefit to uh

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to going to the manual uh

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i'm trying to think of not getting the

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right world manual uh

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monitoring monitoring thank you of the

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uh of the wins um that we will be able

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to do that in fact that was the baseline

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the manual monitoring the winds up until

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about two years ago so going back to it

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is going back to something that we know

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looks like we've got one back and i know

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we've got one on the phone as well so uh

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lee roop with the huntsvilletimesal.com

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uh also for dan

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how old is that rocket out there i've

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heard eight years old is is that right

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and could its age be a factor in the

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valves

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it is definitely not eight years old uh

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the question is how long has that rock

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have been out there i believe it went on

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the stand

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november first no um

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about two months rather than trying to

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be specific but that that rocket's been

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out on the stand i believe about 60 days

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now uh maybe a little bit longer

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it was built uh completion of all three

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of the common booster cores in the upper

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stage were this year

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so it's a very very fresh hardware and i

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don't believe that the rockets age had

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okay um we're going to go to a question

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on the phone real quick while we get the

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microphone reset i think we have stan in

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gold online

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yes stan in gold alabama public radio

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uh my question is well the ordeal today

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um does that impact your confidence at

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all in the delta heavies or also any

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changes that could lead to the with the

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atlas rockets

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well

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go ahead it doesn't change our

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confidence in the rocket we it's a great

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rocket

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we've seen we've worked with this team

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from the beginning they've done an

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outstanding job i think they made good

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choices today and it was a complex

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complex day so it doesn't change our

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confidence at all i would just like to

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um

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you know

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talk about today

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you used a term that i would disagree

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with today was a very very disciplined

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uh process

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uh our team

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has built an amazing record of mission

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success uh because our our team knows

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our rocket very very well and the team

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was

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absolutely on their game

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listening to everything the rocket was

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telling us and it ultimately told us it

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wasn't ready to go today and so we will

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we'll go make sure we've got a happy

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rocket and as soon as we do that we're

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going to get back to the pad and send

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orion off to a very very successful test

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flight and we're looking forward to

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okay hi kent kramer for universe today

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in america space a question about both

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the batteries and the valves how how

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long will it take you to determine what

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the problem is and if you did have to

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make any change outs you know what

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what's the impact of that

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a certain scrub how long would it take

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i will i'll you guys if if chime in if

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you want to help but uh

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just just the way you had planned it huh

548
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very good questions but very

549
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hypothetical uh it's always hard to know

550
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exactly uh how quickly we're going to be

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able to process the data and and

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understand exactly what happened i'll

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tell you my gut feel tells me this

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afternoon

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we'll have a pretty darn good idea and

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then we'll convene all of the uh the

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right people from the different aspects

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of the team and get our go forward plan

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potted in a very integrated sense

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uh how long it would take to change

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things out depends completely on how

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long it would take what it is we were

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changing out uh and so it's a very very

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difficult you know question to answer uh

565
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:41,679
again i i you know probably the thing i

566
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:42,480
can

567
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,400
give you some guidance with

568
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:46,640
when we've seen similar behavior in the

569
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:49,200
past we we did not need to change out

570
00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:51,919
any hardware we were able to come up

571
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:52,960
with

572
00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:59,990
procedures to mitigate that risk and we

573
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:01,760
have many of those options at our

574
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:04,400
disposal so i think the most likely path

575
00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:06,640
forward and there's you never say never

576
00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:08,880
in this business but the most likely

577
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:10,559
path forward would be that we would

578
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:13,679
employ some type of operational

579
00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:16,559
procedure in order to mitigate the risk

580
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:19,280
of this happening again

581
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:24,070
well there's a couple battery issues

582
00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:25,520
that our engineering teams are off

583
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,440
looking at and and the

584
00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:29,120
real determination there is how many

585
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:31,600
cycles can we do and

586
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:32,640
uh

587
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:34,240
depending on you know when an account

588
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:36,320
like i say that we go to internal power

589
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:38,400
at launch minus nine minutes in the

590
00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:39,760
normal flow

591
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:42,159
so we've done assessments of how long we

592
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,200
stayed in that situation

593
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:47,039
and how long it would take us to charge

594
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:48,880
batteries back up

595
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:51,440
we also collect data during that time so

596
00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:53,039
there's a data recorder that could get

597
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,120
filled up but we would have to

598
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to also do something to process but

599
00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:59,440
we're working to make sure that we

600
00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:00,720
understand all those constraints right

601
00:23:02,950 --> 00:23:02,000
now that's what the engineering teams

602
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:02,960
are doing

603
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:05,360
and there's a battery issue with uh on

604
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:07,440
the rocket side too that we're

605
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:09,280
understanding and working with it has to

606
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:12,559
do with instrumentation as well and uh

607
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:14,960
but non-uh none of the instrumentation

608
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:16,799
plays into the control systems of the

609
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:19,440
rocket so they're uh what we would call

610
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:23,039
required assets not mandatory so again

611
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:24,640
we'll the team will work through that

612
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:25,760
and i think we'll be ready to give it

613
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:28,320
another try here very soon

614
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:31,039
yes brent houston with the tacoma voice

615
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:32,559
since the valves have had a problem

616
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:34,559
before and now they have a problem that

617
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:37,679
scrubbed today's launch would would that

618
00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:39,679
warrant some kind of redesign of the

619
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:42,080
valve itself

620
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:44,159
the valves have worked many times very

621
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,360
very well

622
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:47,520
but it's a great question that the team

623
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:49,919
will be asking and looking at

624
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,760
again similar to the previous answer

625
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:55,679
i think there are probably

626
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:02,950
fixes that would be employed prior to us

627
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:12,390
we had one in the middle here

628
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:13,350
thank you

629
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:15,600
jane wells with cnbc a couple questions

630
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:17,600
did the valve three questions did the

631
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:19,600
valves close during the first two

632
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:20,720
attempts

633
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:23,840
is the cost of today's scrubbing being

634
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:24,720
added

635
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,880
beyond the 370 million or is that all

636
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:28,480
incorporated in that sort of you're

637
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:30,000
you're nodding yes okay did the valves

638
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:31,440
go and third

639
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:34,080
uh there are some who have said the ship

640
00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:36,640
was a cruise ship is that true

641
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,039
so let's see the first one was in the

642
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:41,440
first two attempts we did not get to

643
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:44,720
send the command to close the valves

644
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:45,600
so

645
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:47,600
there was no attempt and therefore they

646
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:50,880
they were not active uh when the winds

647
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:53,440
scrubbed those attempts you've asked i

648
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:57,279
think the second has been answered uh

649
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:00,960
i don't uh what i heard on the net was a

650
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:02,720
cargo ship

651
00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:06,080
so uh that's the information i have

652
00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:08,159
again uh you know that's the range is

653
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:10,000
responsibility and i probably should be

654
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:11,600
careful about answering from them but

655
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:18,149
okay i think um

656
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:20,559
don't see any more questions oh one more

657
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:21,919
from james dane and i think that'll be

658
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:29,909
dean florida today and i might regret

659
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:31,279
asking uh

660
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:32,880
what might seem like a quite a silly

661
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:35,039
question but you got a real heavy rocket

662
00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:36,080
on the pad i wondered if you wouldn't

663
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:37,919
mind just mine explaining

664
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,520
you know what is the threat that a stiff

665
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,360
breeze poses to

666
00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:43,440
this million and a half pound rocket and

667
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:45,039
you know why is it that

668
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:46,080
a little bit different direction

669
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,960
tomorrow might make such a difference

670
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:50,480
actually uh

671
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:52,640
no problem at all

672
00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:55,120
as the rocket lifts off

673
00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:57,679
a wind can push the rocket you look at

674
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,559
the sail area of a heavy and a wind from

675
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,400
a certain direction

676
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:03,840
you get a

677
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:04,799
you know

678
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:07,200
one profile this way and another profile

679
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:08,799
this way and so

680
00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:10,880
which side of that rocket the wind's

681
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:13,279
blowing on it's kind of either blowing

682
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,200
on a knife or it's blowing on a garage

683
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,520
door makes a big difference

684
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:19,200
the other part is

685
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:21,600
where is the rocket being blown to as

686
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:23,679
the rocket comes up if there is a wind

687
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:26,240
it will drift if it starts to drift

688
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:28,720
towards the fixed umbilical tower which

689
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:31,440
is the structure that holds

690
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:33,760
the swing arms

691
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:35,679
then obviously

692
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:38,159
you can't drift as far in that direction

693
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:40,000
as you can in other directions where

694
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:41,840
there are no other structures in the

695
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:44,960
area so the reason the wind direction

696
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:46,960
the wind's important is it does push the

697
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,559
rocket as you're coming up off the

698
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:50,720
launch pad and the reason the direction

699
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:52,720
is important is because there are

700
00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:54,799
structures near the rocket that need to

701
00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:57,200
be there to accommodate the launch and

702
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:03,510
okay i think we will wrap up there

703
00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:06,080
we'll try again tomorrow at 7 05 a.m

704
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:08,799
eastern time again but tomorrow our nasa

705
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:11,279
tv coverage of the event will start at 6

706
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:12,400
a.m

707
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:13,760
eastern time

708
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:16,240
you can check up on on the status of

709
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,279
events in the meantime at nasa.gov orion

710
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:21,360
to keep up with what exactly is going on

711
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:22,960
so we'll hopefully i'll see you all

712
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:25,039
there tomorrow and then hopefully have a